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Greatcoat Support Grows…

(I amended this entry as the debate has now closed)

Some of the great folks over at Forbidden Planet International have just pitched in to the debate over Wikipedia about the proposed deletion of an entry about my cartoon strip, The Really Heavy Greatcoat.

In a posting on the FPI blog, one team member suggests that this might be part of some wider crackdown by some Wikipedia’s editors on comics it includes. Personally, I don’t think that is the case — I wasn’t aware there were moves afoot to crack down on comics on Wikipedia which in some areas seems keen to support them — but what does annoy me most is that despite providing the “notability” required to justify THRG’s inclusion, some editors appear to be ignoring it, which runs counter to the entire principle of the project.

Wikipedia’s primary criterion for “notability” is

“Whether the subject of an article has been the subject of non-trivial published works by multiple separate sources that are independent of that subject, which applies to all classes of subjects”.

By those standards, The Really Heavy Greatcoat (created by myself and Nick Miller) ticks every box demanded: in addition to publication in print for years in Lancaster and through my own publishing efforts online, the comic has been independently published, in Comics International, by syndicated US cartoonist Michael Jantze’s in an issue of his The Norm comic, and in the UK comics anthology Paper Tiger, to name but a few.

Dennis the Cat in Litter - SmallI’m guessing now that some critical praise (from, say, Alan Moore, or Dave Gibbons, who I would hope the Wikipedia editors might just have heard of!) might help swing this the Greatcoat’s way, which would be a nice present as it celebrates 20 years of cartoon weirdness!

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John Freeman

The founder of downthetubes, John works as a comics editor, writer, as Creative Consultant on the Dan Dare audio adventures for B7 Media, and on promotional work for the Lakes International Comic Art Festival. Working in British comics publishing for over 30 years, his credits include editor of titles such as Doctor Who Magazine, Star Trek Magazine and Babylon 5 Magazine. He also edited the comics anthology STRIP Magazine and edited several audio comics for ROK Comics. He has also edited several comic collections, including volumes of “Charley’s War and “Dan Dare”. He’s the writer of “Crucible”, a creator-owned project with 2000AD artist Smuzz, published on Tapastic; and “Death Duty” and “Skow Dogs” with Dave Hailwood for digital comic 100% Biodegradable.

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