Is the Really Heavy Greatcoat notable?

Note: the debate on the inclusion of the RHG on Wikipedia has closed in the RHG’s favour. I keep this post for its ‘historical’ value!


… I ask because last year an entry for my 20-years-and-counting strip The Really Heavy Greatcoat (drawn by Nick Miller) was added to Wikipedia which one editor deemed “non-noteworthy” and, not knowing the procedure for appealing these decisions, the page was deleted, much to my chagrin – and that of artist Nick Miller.

Kindly restored by one of Wikipedia’s editors, that deletion is currently a matter for renewed debate on the internet encyclopedia, so I’m appealing to any Greatcoat fans out there, as the strip reaches its 20th anniversary, to support my appeal to keep the entry.

I’m still unsure quite why some are arguing the strip is non-noteworthy. Purely in terms of longevity as an independently published comic – albeit online these days, but also in Comics International — I would have thought this counted in the strip’s favour, as would its selection by acclaimed US cartoonist Michael Jantze for inclusion in one of his Norm books a couple of years back. It’s clear Wikipedia doesn’t consider the creators non-noteworthy, as I have a limited entry on the site, (I await additions as a result of mentioning this with morbid interest…).

Maybe I just don’t understand Wikipedia’s rules and have broken some arcane aspect of them, but it seems odd to me that strips with a shorter publication history have even larger entries on Wikipedia (James Turner’s superb and award-winning Beaver and Steve, for one, a brilliant strip and kudos to him for achieving the notability required with pure online publication since 2004, and a collection I’ve previously urged everyone ot go out and buy) .

Anyway — so far, several people have voiced their support for the strip’s inclusion and if anyone reading this can think of arguments in favour of the elusive “notablity” factor required by those who have argued the Really Heavy Greatcoat apparently doesn’t have, I’d be grateful if you voiced it in the debate – thanks.

My appeal has already been backed by blogmaster Joe Gordon over at Forbidden Planet International, and others.

The founder of downthetubes, John works as a comics editor, writer, as Creative Consultant on the Dan Dare audio adventures for B7 Media, and on promotional work for the Lakes International Comic Art Festival. Working in British comics publishing for over 30 years, his credits include editor of titles such as Doctor Who Magazine, Star Trek Magazine and Babylon 5 Magazine. He also edited the comics anthology STRIP Magazine and edited several audio comics for ROK Comics. He has also edited several comic collections, including volumes of “Charley’s War and “Dan Dare”. He’s the writer of “Crucible”, a creator-owned project with 2000AD artist Smuzz, published on Tapastic; and “Death Duty” and “Skow Dogs” with Dave Hailwood for digital comic 100% Biodegradable.



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  1. As a wikipedia editor I’ve removed the noticability tag from the entry; I remember the strip from Comics International and a twenty year run is notable enough to be included.

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